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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: Hatred for Gandhi |
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literarydiscussions: i have always been very intested in philosophy
literarydiscussions: http://www.literarydiscussions.myfreeforum.org is the message board I have created for philosophical discussions...
literarydiscussions: I have posted a sample overview of my writings there, written during the past 8 years
StudentInIndia: ok
StudentInIndia: who r u
StudentInIndia: why r u spamming??
literarydiscussions: your name is so interesting
literarydiscussions: i am not spaming you.. just trying to get to know you
literarydiscussions: if it is actually true that you have a great interest in philosophy
literarydiscussions: what does having an interest, and seeking others who share that interest have to be spam
StudentInIndia: i got u
literarydiscussions: you mean, if i said ASL, then that would be ok
literarydiscussions: that sort of thing, which happens constantly, disgusts me
StudentInIndia: sorry
literarydiscussions: age, sex, location... that all anyone ever thinks
StudentInIndia: i was fed of spamming
StudentInIndia: and no one knows until u tell
StudentInIndia: that u r not spam
literarydiscussions: well... no one spams sites on philosophy and literature..
literarydiscussions: i understand
StudentInIndia: they do
StudentInIndia: i am sorry to say that
literarydiscussions: at least i am not pushing on line poker
StudentInIndia: ok
literarydiscussions: well, anyway... if you have a great interest in philosophy,... you can find some very different things at the message board, which I have written....
literarydiscussions: i graduated from st. johns great books program in annapolis, in 1969 ,.... the 100 Great Books program
StudentInIndia: i will try
literarydiscussions: i am male age 58
StudentInIndia: thanks
literarydiscussions: so, that 4 years of great books study had a great influence upon me
StudentInIndia: i am male
StudentInIndia: 27
StudentInIndia: i like postmodern philosophy
literarydiscussions: nice to meet you...
StudentInIndia: michel foucault et al3
literarydiscussions: ohh.. you will enjoy a few of my posts on Thomas Pynchon, perhaps
StudentInIndia: umm
literarydiscussions: you never know when one idea, one remark, will open up something for you
literarydiscussions: or for me, or for anyone
StudentInIndia: yes
StudentInIndia: what do u think of "colonialism is modernism"
StudentInIndia: is modernism and colonialism same
StudentInIndia: ??
literarydiscussions: hmm... i would have to think about that
StudentInIndia: where r u from
StudentInIndia: i am indian
literarydiscussions: i mean, i am not disagreeing, i just need to think about it
StudentInIndia: i am surfing thru ur forum
StudentInIndia: it is interesting
literarydiscussions: I am born and raised in USA, with no Indian ancestry, but I write under the name Sitaram
literarydiscussions: here is the highlights of my first forum of 8 years ago, "Hinduism and Interfaith Dialogues" http://www.members.aol.com/Sitaram
literarydiscussions: and my egroup of 6 years is http://www.egroups.com/group/Sitaram
literarydiscussions: and I have been trying to write my first book at http://www.toosmallforsupernova.org
literarydiscussions: I recently made some internet acquaintances in Africa, so, 2 weeks ago, I created http://www.voicesofafricaunited.myfreeforum.org in the hopes that Africans would join and help shape it
passionatephilosophy : sorry
passionatephilosophy : i was busy reading ur forum
passionatephilosophy : what is ur name
passionatephilosophy : and where r u from
literarydiscussions: I am Sitaram
literarydiscussions: born and raised in USA
literarydiscussions: nice to meet you
passionatephilosophy : same here
passionatephilosophy : seems u r of Indian orgin
literarydiscussions: i truly BECAME Sitaram, in my writings, for a number of people around the world...
passionatephilosophy : and this got them furious
passionatephilosophy : i was born as a Hindu
literarydiscussions: i would like Sitaram to be on my tombstone, if I get to have a tombstone
passionatephilosophy : but i am atheist
literarydiscussions: i respect atheists and agnostics
passionatephilosophy : thanks
literarydiscussions: islam is a dangerous ideology whic devours the world now, like a cancer
passionatephilosophy : me too believe in freedom of faith
passionatephilosophy : i beg to differ
passionatephilosophy : Islam is not a dangerous ideology
literarydiscussions: you may differ all you like, but simply pick up any newspaper, any day... and see what is there
passionatephilosophy : i strongly object
literarydiscussions: i spent some years analyzing quran, hadith, and personality of muhammed, to demonstrate it's insideous nature
passionatephilosophy : Islam is not a monolithic
passionatephilosophy : instituion
passionatephilosophy : it is diverse as any religion
literarydiscussions: well... sure, there are loveable sufis... and wishy washy sunnis, and secular shias
passionatephilosophy : u can singleout a religion as dangerous
passionatephilosophy : every fundametalist is dangerous
literarydiscussions: BUT, the 95 percent of those harmless ones, will breed the 5 percent of the terrorists, generation after generation... and Muhammed himself, the man, was a monster, in so many ways
passionatephilosophy : be hindu be muslim
passionatephilosophy : those indulged in pogrom of France r not muslims
literarydiscussions: i respect your right to believe as you like, but nothing you can say is likely to change the views i have acquired over years of study
passionatephilosophy : those who killed in GHodhara in india
passionatephilosophy : r hindus
passionatephilosophy : USA suppress others
passionatephilosophy : so they react
literarydiscussions: well, then you shall be offended by those of my writings which criticize islam
passionatephilosophy : violence begets violence
passionatephilosophy : i am not offended
passionatephilosophy : i am not a begotted mullah
literarydiscussions: i have been in many masjids, in usa, and met many muslims, and seen and tasted the evil of their personalities, their agenda
passionatephilosophy : rather i am against religion itself
literarydiscussions: and that was long before 9/11
literarydiscussions: many feel as you do, i respect that
passionatephilosophy : what christian did in India
passionatephilosophy : is not pardonable
passionatephilosophy : they kept us slave for 200
literarydiscussions: yes, i agree, and i have written against that
passionatephilosophy : years
literarydiscussions: you will find many things that i wrote to criticize christianity and european colonial aggression...
passionatephilosophy : what christians r doing now in name of globalisation
passionatephilosophy : is not pardonable
passionatephilosophy : but....
literarydiscussions: but, it is most interesting... even though i wrote things to insult and anger christians... never ONCE did i receive a threat of death or torture from a single christian
passionatephilosophy : i do not think in term of religion
literarydiscussions: but.... that violent threatening is a knee-jerk automatic reaction for muslims
literarydiscussions: "slap me once, I slap you twice" is their philosophy, in contrast to the christian "turn the other cheek"
passionatephilosophy : becoz christian need not do that
passionatephilosophy : christians do not follow that philosophy
passionatephilosophy : Hitler was a christian
passionatephilosophy : and so was Roosevelt
passionatephilosophy : it is meaningless to talk of what the preach
passionatephilosophy : it is just words
passionatephilosophy : Christianism is a farce
literarydiscussions: take my word, from my point of view, if the day comes, years from now, that you are enslaved, your masters will surely be muslims
passionatephilosophy : so is every religiuon
literarydiscussions: i write about the farce of christianity as well
passionatephilosophy : muslims r poor people except for few lechjerous Arabs
passionatephilosophy : they will never be masters of world
literarydiscussions: look.... all organized corporate endeavors of mankind are corrupt... whether religious, political, or academic...
passionatephilosophy : yes
passionatephilosophy : so u r bakunist
passionatephilosophy : u want no govenment
literarydiscussions: i am not familiar with bakun... though i have heard the name
passionatephilosophy : bakunin*
literarydiscussions: i simple am 58, and have tasted the corruption of many kinds of organizations
literarydiscussions: i have seen this name, bakunin, but am not familiar...
passionatephilosophy : r u christian?
literarydiscussions: i like philosophy, and may speak (and have spoken) at length about plato, but i do not know every philosopher
passionatephilosophy : WASP??
literarydiscussions: hold on..
literarydiscussions: i was pujari for several years in a guyanese mandir
literarydiscussions: i cannot help the color of my skin
literarydiscussions: why throw around such terms as wasp
literarydiscussions: i was raised with no religion, never brought to a house of worship once, by my parents
passionatephilosophy : what were ur parents
passionatephilosophy : grandparents??
literarydiscussions: they were nominally protestant... (well, duh, my whole ancestry is german, british, dutch.. so they werent parsees or Jains)...
literarydiscussions: but, we are not talking caste membership here
literarydiscussions: my parents as children had a little church... but were not interested
literarydiscussions: so they never took me once...
passionatephilosophy : so why u see things in term of religion
literarydiscussions: many people in usa are like that, secular...
literarydiscussions: you are speaking in such a silly fashion.... what were my grand parents
passionatephilosophy : if british subjugated India
passionatephilosophy : it is not their christianity
passionatephilosophy : but their imperialism
literarydiscussions: look.. i wrote extensively about the evils of christianity.... and imperialism, the evils of the white man... what more do you want from me... you think i can turn back the clock and undo history...
passionatephilosophy : u can see as subjugation of Hindu by christians
literarydiscussions: just read my 8 years of writings, and you will see we are in agreement
passionatephilosophy : can not*
passionatephilosophy : i agree with u
passionatephilosophy : and i do not like to live in history.
literarydiscussions: you are very funny,... you seem anxious to condemn the evils of the white european christian at the drop of a hat... but you are also anxious to defend islam... do you not see the irony in this
passionatephilosophy : but why this hatred with Muslims
passionatephilosophy : hate terrorist
passionatephilosophy : hate extremist
passionatephilosophy : not muslims
literarydiscussions: in one breath, you defend islam... in the next breath you rage against the christian europeans
passionatephilosophy : i am not against christians
passionatephilosophy : i am against seeing imperialism in india as subjugation of Hindus by christians
literarydiscussions: well, in this chat, you have sounded very sympathic and apologetic on behalf of islam,... but you foam at the mouth in anger over the christian european emperialism
passionatephilosophy : it is my poor english
passionatephilosophy : i do not hate any religion
passionatephilosophy : because religion is a Simulacrum
passionatephilosophy : it is not a real identity
literarydiscussions: look at islam as arab colonial emperial agression in the disguise of religion... within a very short time after death of muhammed, islam had seized jerusalem itself, and europe reacted with the crusades
passionatephilosophy : Christianity teaches to love
passionatephilosophy : in that case no impreialism cud have been possible
passionatephilosophy : GOD was dead
passionatephilosophy : in 19th
passionatephilosophy : century it self
literarydiscussions: gandhi explicitly explains in his autobiography why he rejected christianity as a personal religion,... but gandhi loved and empodied the principles expressed in jesus beatitudes in the sermon on the mount
passionatephilosophy : and most were Nominally religious
passionatephilosophy : except for Feudal countries
literarydiscussions: there is nothing in the quran as noble as those few sentences in the beatitudes
passionatephilosophy : where capitalism has not evovled
passionatephilosophy : Gandhi is a farce
passionatephilosophy : a representative of Brahmin class
passionatephilosophy : of India
literarydiscussions: well,... i know many in india hate gandhi for many reasons... but i do not...
literarydiscussions: so, you love islam and hate gandhi... that is your right
passionatephilosophy : He is Enemy to nonbrahmins
passionatephilosophy : i hate HIM
literarydiscussions: well, that is obvious
passionatephilosophy : i can not hear his name even
passionatephilosophy : if gandhi wud alive
passionatephilosophy : i wud have murdered HIM
passionatephilosophy : his was a stooge of British
passionatephilosophy : a retrogade
passionatephilosophy : Bania
passionatephilosophy : a homosexual
literarydiscussions: well, i admire him, and mention him in my writings, as a good example of many things... but obviously there WAS on hindu who hated him enough to shoot him...
passionatephilosophy : perverted
literarydiscussions: sorry to see you love islam so much... and dislike gandhi so much
passionatephilosophy : old man doing sexual experimets with young gals in 1931
literarydiscussions: so... can you quote at length from gandhis writings
passionatephilosophy : i hate islam
passionatephilosophy : i hate any religion
passionatephilosophy : i did not get me
literarydiscussions: why were you so anxiou to defend muslims
passionatephilosophy : u misread me
passionatephilosophy : i am not defending muslims
literarydiscussions: when we rage with hatred, it is not easy to discuss philosophy or ideas with equanimity and balance
passionatephilosophy : i defend my view that religion shud not be basis
literarydiscussions: the foam at the mouth gets in the way of words
passionatephilosophy : to analyse things
literarydiscussions: your screen name is half correct, the "passionate" is quite accurate for you...
passionatephilosophy : i hate any religion
passionatephilosophy : philosophy is not about Gandhism
passionatephilosophy : tolostoyism
passionatephilosophy : only
passionatephilosophy : it had Foucaults
passionatephilosophy : Nietzche
literarydiscussions: you have big angry chips upon your shoulder, as far as i can see
passionatephilosophy : Sartre too
passionatephilosophy : Vedas teaches us that
passionatephilosophy : Anger is good
passionatephilosophy : if it is against unjustice
passionatephilosophy : and i have BIGGGG anger against those
literarydiscussions: when all we are capable of is anger, then it must be good, since we are capable of little else
literarydiscussions: and what does all your anger achieve
passionatephilosophy : who did unjustice to mankind and me
passionatephilosophy : what does this hypoctrite love achieves
literarydiscussions: what YOU like, is good, and what you do not like is bad... this is what i am hearing
passionatephilosophy : besides misleading blacks
passionatephilosophy : indians
passionatephilosophy : thrid world
passionatephilosophy : what YOU like, is good, and what you do not like is bad... this is what i am hearing
literarydiscussions: so... in 100 years, both you and i shall be dead.... and if anything remains, it shall be the words I have written, if they catch someones interest, or the words you have written, if it is the case that you have written something
passionatephilosophy : it is true about anybody
literarydiscussions: buy, you had to copy my words to express yourself...
passionatephilosophy : i do not belive in this spiritual garbage
literarydiscussions: so... sorry to have bothered you,... i can see that my personality and writings would only enrage you...
passionatephilosophy : my english is poor
passionatephilosophy : chat with me in Hindi
passionatephilosophy : i can express myself
passionatephilosophy : it is not enraging me
literarydiscussions: feel free to discuss with me about non religious things in my writings, if you come across something that catches your interest
passionatephilosophy : u r not enraging me
passionatephilosophy : it is Gandhi
literarydiscussions: i got the message
passionatephilosophy : u know gandhi only thru his writings
passionatephilosophy : and i know him thru his deeds
passionatephilosophy : what he did agains Dalits
literarydiscussions: aha, and you were his personal acquaintance
passionatephilosophy : backward castes
passionatephilosophy : in India
passionatephilosophy : at least we r victim of his Varnasrama
literarydiscussions: gandhi coined the term Harijan,... truly, he sounds filled with hatred for the Dalits
passionatephilosophy : his GITAMATA
passionatephilosophy : harijans means illicit child of devdasis
passionatephilosophy : in Hindi
passionatephilosophy : he regarded Dalits as illicit
literarydiscussions: a saint can see saintliness in even the worst sinner, but a sinner can see sinfulness in even the holiest of saints
passionatephilosophy : children of devdasis
passionatephilosophy : i have read enogh of such Quaotes
passionatephilosophy : they r only and only beutyful quotes
passionatephilosophy : sinner..lol
passionatephilosophy : We r all product of sin
passionatephilosophy : lol
literarydiscussions: quotes roll off your back like water off the ducks back
passionatephilosophy : this is also a pithic quote
passionatephilosophy : pathetic too
literarydiscussions: well, since you are so wise, you should write at length, and create websites and message boards, so that charlatans like me can be exposed, and so that your wisdom may be preserved for the benefit of future generations
literarydiscussions: does this not make good sense, or shall you also find something objectionable in this
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