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Raising World Awareness of Africaliterarydiscussions: I was told by Jeff Max, who is in Nigeria, that 140
naira = 1dollar USD is the cost of a letter to USA, and he sends letter
to USA and they arrive
samuel_osatuyi : ok
samuel_osatuyi : yes it might be true, but i will send it to u on january
literarydiscussions: jeff max is in Port Harcourt
samuel_osatuyi : meanwhile, the one that received #100 from me
was a private courier company., that was why it was expensive
samuel_osatuyi : i know
literarydiscussions: no rush.... take your time.... put as many poems as
possible in envelope, to get the most value for your postage
literarydiscussions: you know jeff max... did you contact him
samuel_osatuyi : ok
samuel_osatuyi : yes, he added me into it messenhger list
literarydiscussions: he said his city is 8 hours from you by car, or 1
hour by plane
literarydiscussions: from lagos
samuel_osatuyi : yes
samuel_osatuyi : it is true
literarydiscussions: here is my free BLOG page... you can get one there
also
literarydiscussions: http://literarydiscussions.blogspot.com/
literarydiscussions: if you are a fast typist, then you could type your
poems there also
literarydiscussions: or, if you mail me, i will post them on internet
literarydiscussions: but, if you have a blog, you could type things
there, and I could visit and copy them.... and it might be cheaper than
postal system...
samuel_osatuyi : ok
samuel_osatuyi : i will try that
literarydiscussions: someone told me that internet cafe costs between
150 and 200 nira per hour
samuel_osatuyi : yes it is true, abt $1, but b4 one could get it, iss not
easy
literarydiscussions: i understand, it is hard to save up $1 for cafe
samuel_osatuyi : i don"t understand u ?
literarydiscussions: i am assuming that you are saying it is not easy to
get $1 .... that is,..... internet cafe sounds very cheap.... but is not
cheap if you do not have $1
literarydiscussions: 150 nira is small amount, but if you cannot earn
much money, then it is expensive
samuel_osatuyi : ok, it is not cheap !, at all !!
samuel_osatuyi : yes
samuel_osatuyi : if one is rich, it a small money money
literarydiscussions: i am just pointing out, that in USA,.... people will
throw $1 in a charity collection,... or to a homeless person... and not
think about it.... but then an internet cafe costs $10 per hour
samuel_osatuyi : it even more costly than here
literarydiscussions: yes
samuel_osatuyi : it wonderful
literarydiscussions: what is wonderful?
literarydiscussions: you mean,... wondrous, amazing
samuel_osatuyi : but pple can easy get it over there, that is why it is
so
samuel_osatuyi : yes
literarydiscussions: well.... people come here from mexico and south
america,... and work jobs that we consider undesirable, long hours,
low pay for us... but to them, it is a lot, and they cannot earn the same
in their country.... and it lets them send money to their families back
in their country
samuel_osatuyi : yes u ar correct
samuel_osatuyi : only god can help we massy
literarydiscussions: i met an old black woman in usa, in her 80s,
retired, who came from Jamaica, and she worked all her life in usa in
garment district.... at hard job, for what people consider low wages...
but she was better off than if she had stayed in Jamaica
samuel_osatuyi : this is the true position of every poor nigerian,
expecially me,if i can find a way out of Nigeria, if i sees such i will do
it, but just for a moment
literarydiscussions: on our educational television (which is private, run
by donations, not government, and expresses points of view contrary
to government sometimes) on educational TV, there was documentary
about one African who had been a farmer, but got a boat, and turned
to fishing, because farming was poor....
samuel_osatuyi : u know, u can"t im agine the hazard ppl go through
literarydiscussions: he was doing better at fishing, but said that he
was so used to having milk, as a farmer, that he did not feel right if he
did not drink some milk each day...
literarydiscussions: Jeff Max thinks that American news distorts and
exaggerates things, and that we think that all africans are naked in a
jungle, and not in big cities with tall buildings...... but that is not true....
we have public television which is independent, and shows factual
documentaries about real peoples lives in africa, india, china, etc
samuel_osatuyi : it is true , this would have been my advice to the
american television, they sholud try to help our situation insted of
ridiculing the africa continent
literarydiscussions: you do not understand what i said
literarydiscussions: they never ridicule africa on tv.... jeff max is
mistaken
samuel_osatuyi : ok
samuel_osatuyi : but when they saw africans lanquishing in pains,
what have they done to help
samuel_osatuyi : i understand u
literarydiscussions: well... i am certain that help has come from usa
and other countries..... to africa.... though i cannot say in detail how
much or what.... but on the otherhand... you cannot expect usa to
totally remove all the poverty or illness or suffering... since that is not
possible
literarydiscussions: centuries ago, no nation would take some action if
there was a genocide or an injustice in another country...
literarydiscussions: but now.... you see action taken regarding
hutu/tutsi genocide.... or the actions against muslims in bosnia
samuel_osatuyi : at list, well the london government ar trying, a
governor in Nigveria took the country"s money to london, and he was
caught,if america can teach and assert presure on hthe rich Nigerians
in usa, it will help to remember the mpor
literarydiscussions: i do not say that americans are saints..... no
nation or people is saintly... each have their selfish sides, self
interest..... but it is not fair to portray americans as demons with evil
agendas, as we are portrayed by Cuba and North Korea
literarydiscussions: whenever North Korea has a frequent power
electrical brown out, they say "oh those damn americans are doing
this to us".... which is absurd
samuel_osatuyi : am not imposing the blames on americans, but it is
part of jthe ways they can help to let the rich have the mind of the
poor in them
literarydiscussions: here is someone talking to me from ethiopia
literarydiscussions: hiruyfekre
literarydiscussions: his screen name
samuel_osatuyi : you if the home is good,ppl woN"t go out in serching
for a better hope
samuel_osatuyi : is he online right now
samuel_osatuyi 's status is now "Available". (12/23/2005 7:08 AM)
literarydiscussions: he is on line now... asking about blogspots
literarydiscussions: so i gave him the link to get a free blog, like i did
samuel_osatuyi : ok
samuel_osatuyi : thank u for writting something abt me on ur site am
so happy
samuel_osatuyi : u called me a young poet
samuel_osatuyi : am aspiring to do more better
literarydiscussions: yes... i think we should have more about Africa....
to raise people's awareness around the world
literarydiscussions: and we can post discussions about problems,
politics... etc
samuel_osatuyi : no, it has to do with the internet
literarydiscussions: look, i know you, and jeff max , in nigeria, and now
hiruyfekre in ethiopia
samuel_osatuyi : ii pray that God will help me, is part of my plans
samuel_osatuyi : ok, i promise 2 tell ppl abt u
literarydiscussions: it is ok, not necessary... all posts enter into the
search engines automatically... and if people are interested... they will
search on a topic, and find my site
literarydiscussions: but thanks for kind thought
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hiruyfekre : hi
literarydiscussions: hello
hiruyfekre : remember me
literarydiscussions: sort of.... i see so many hundreds on line
hiruyfekre : you helped me find some books once
hiruyfekre : and this one time you were told me 'write once read
many times'
literarydiscussions: what country are you in
hiruyfekre : Ethiopia
hiruyfekre : and you?
literarydiscussions: usa
literarydiscussions: i am talking right now to someone in nigeria
hiruyfekre : What is your understanding of Blogger and Blogspot
hiruyfekre : I once lived very close to that country
literarydiscussions: i can show you my new blog,... it is free, you can
have one too
hiruyfekre : how can I get free web space out side of blog
hiruyfekre : yeah show me
literarydiscussions: here is mine
http://literarydiscussions.blogspot.com/
literarydiscussions: here is where to get your own
literarydiscussions: http://www.blogger.com/start
hiruyfekre : yeah, I happen to have one to, but i can't seem to design
it, how do you put pictures in?
literarydiscussions: at the link i gave you , they tell you how... you
need an internet host (a website or something) to UPLOAD your
photos.... then, you place a link to the picture at that site...
literarydiscussions: i dont have much time now.... i could do a post
over the weekend to explain how it is done...
literarydiscussions: the www.blogger.com site gives you links to
places where you can get free space to upload pictures
hiruyfekre : thanksyou are always a help
literarydiscussions: make sure you have the link to my message board
hiruyfekre : I do
literarydiscussions: http://www.literarydiscussions.myfreeforum.org
literarydiscussions: there is a section there on SOFTWARE...
hiruyfekre : hey, are message boards also free
literarydiscussions: so, i could post some info about embedding
photos
literarydiscussions: yes... myfreeforum.org gives you free message
board
hiruyfekre : i'll check it out.
literarydiscussions: and at my free forum... there is info on how to run
one... with tutorials
literarydiscussions: links to their tutorials
hiruyfekre : thats wonderful
literarydiscussions: and they have a support message board at
forum.myfreeforum.org
literarydiscussions: so, you can join there... and ask questions
hiruyfekre : wow
hiruyfekre : i'll do that.
literarydiscussions: the man who runs it is in england... it is a very
small 2 man company...
literarydiscussions: he is very honest and concerned about ethics and
principles
hiruyfekre : that sounds like something
literarydiscussions: he founded some kind of environmental
movement, called downsizer
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literarydiscussions: i found one message board devoted to nigera... there must be others.... you can search for them on google.... and post ads to your message board and egroup... and gain members
literarydiscussions: and you could use ICQ the chat program, use their search engine... which will show you who is on line in ICQ for a given african country and city
literarydiscussions: like everyone in lagos, nigeria
literarydiscussions: for example
literarydiscussions: you can visit yahoo chat rooms where there may be many african-americans.... and get some of them to join
literarydiscussions: you can hold yahoo conferences with 5 or 10 people from africa... then save the chat using cut and paste.. then edit it.. then post it to the message board.... and discuss important issues regarding life in africa, politics, economy, health
launch a campaign to get people like Bill Gates of Microsoft,... and others of wealth and power... to fund free internet access in major areas in Africa, major cities
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get many together, in yahoo.... build membership.... keep working weekly toward this goal
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literarydiscussions: yes... myfreeforum.org gives you free message board
hiruyfekre : i'll check it out.
literarydiscussions: and at my free forum... there is info on how to run one... with tutorials
literarydiscussions: links to their tutorials
hiruyfekre : thats wonderful
literarydiscussions: and they have a support message board at forum.myfreeforum.org
literarydiscussions: so, you can join there... and ask questions
hiruyfekre : wow
hiruyfekre : i'll do that.
literarydiscussions: the man who runs it is in england... it is a very small 2 man company...
literarydiscussions: he is very honest and concerned about ethics and principles
hiruyfekre : that sounds like something
literarydiscussions: he founded some kind of environmental movement, called downsizer
literarydiscussions: literarydiscussions: yes... i think we should have more about Africa.... to raise people's awareness around the world
literarydiscussions: and we can post discussions about problems, politics... etc
samuel_osatuyi : no, it has to do with the internet
literarydiscussions: look, i know you, and jeff max , in nigeria, and now hiruyfekre in ethiopia
samuel_osatuyi : ii pray that God will help me, is part of my plans
samuel_osatuyi : ok, i promise 2 tell ppl abt u
literarydiscussions: it is ok, not necessary... all posts enter into the search engines automatically... and if people are interested... they will search on a topic, and find my site
literarydiscussions: but thanks for kind thought
samuel_osatuyi : it my pleasure
samuel_osatuyi : thank u for gining me hope
literarydiscussions: create your own free message board about Africa... and samuel can join, and jeff max
literarydiscussions: also, create a yahoo egroup which people can join, which will send out emails on a weekly or even a daily basis
hiruyfekre : hey, I was detained for a moment as I was having a late lunch
hiruyfekre : I ought to do just that
literarydiscussions: i found one message board devoted to nigera... there must be others.... you can search for them on google.... and post ads to your message board and egroup... and gain members
literarydiscussions: and you could use ICQ the chat program, use their search engine... which will show you who is on line in ICQ for a given african country and city
literarydiscussions: like everyone in lagos, nigeria
literarydiscussions: for example
literarydiscussions: you can visit yahoo chat rooms where there may be many african-americans.... and get some of them to join
literarydiscussions: you can hold yahoo conferences with 5 or 10 people from africa... then save the chat using cut and paste.. then edit it.. then post it to the message board.... and discuss important issues regarding life in africa, politics, economy, health
hiruyfekre : thats something
literarydiscussions: poor samuel... i tell him these same things, reposting... and all he says is....
literarydiscussions: samuel_osatuyi : let us put this to another time
samuel_osatuyi : i can"t really understand all this for now
hiruyfekre : Whats exactly is it
literarydiscussions: he is saying that he cannot understand the concept of people baning together and raising one voice.... to create social change
hiruyfekre : it is a very complex phenomen
literarydiscussions: it is not hard to understand how to shout
literarydiscussions: if you can walk, you can dance. if you can talk, you can sing. and if you can shout, you can start a revolution of change
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