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Sitaram

Raising World Awareness of Africa

literarydiscussions: I was told by Jeff Max, who is in Nigeria, that 140
naira = 1dollar USD is the cost of a letter to USA, and he sends letter
to USA and they arrive


samuel_osatuyi : ok

samuel_osatuyi : yes it might be true, but i will send it to u on january

literarydiscussions: jeff max is in Port Harcourt

samuel_osatuyi : meanwhile, the one that received #100 from me

was a private courier company., that was why it was expensive

samuel_osatuyi : i know

literarydiscussions: no rush.... take your time.... put as many poems as
possible in envelope, to get the most value for your postage

literarydiscussions: you know jeff max... did you contact him

samuel_osatuyi : ok

samuel_osatuyi : yes, he added me into it messenhger list

literarydiscussions: he said his city is 8 hours from you by car, or 1
hour by plane

literarydiscussions: from lagos

samuel_osatuyi : yes

samuel_osatuyi : it is true

literarydiscussions: here is my free BLOG page... you can get one there

also

literarydiscussions: http://literarydiscussions.blogspot.com/

literarydiscussions: if you are a fast typist, then you could type your
poems there also
literarydiscussions: or, if you mail me, i will post them on internet
literarydiscussions: but, if you have a blog, you could type things
there, and I could visit and copy them.... and it might be cheaper than
postal system...

samuel_osatuyi : ok

samuel_osatuyi : i will try that

literarydiscussions: someone told me that internet cafe costs between
150 and 200 nira per hour

samuel_osatuyi : yes it is true, abt $1, but b4 one could get it, iss not
easy

literarydiscussions: i understand, it is hard to save up $1 for cafe

samuel_osatuyi : i don"t understand u ?

literarydiscussions: i am assuming that you are saying it is not easy to
get $1 .... that is,..... internet cafe sounds very cheap.... but is not
cheap if you do not have $1

literarydiscussions: 150 nira is small amount, but if you cannot earn
much money, then it is expensive

samuel_osatuyi : ok, it is not cheap !, at all !!

samuel_osatuyi : yes

samuel_osatuyi : if one is rich, it a small money money

literarydiscussions: i am just pointing out, that in USA,.... people will
throw $1 in a charity collection,... or to a homeless person... and not
think about it.... but then an internet cafe costs $10 per hour


samuel_osatuyi : it even more costly than here

literarydiscussions: yes

samuel_osatuyi : it wonderful

literarydiscussions: what is wonderful?

literarydiscussions: you mean,... wondrous, amazing


samuel_osatuyi : but pple can easy get it over there, that is why it is
so

samuel_osatuyi : yes

literarydiscussions: well.... people come here from mexico and south

america,... and work jobs that we consider undesirable, long hours,

low pay for us... but to them, it is a lot, and they cannot earn the same

in their country.... and it lets them send money to their families back

in their country

samuel_osatuyi : yes u ar correct

samuel_osatuyi : only god can help we massy

literarydiscussions: i met an old black woman in usa, in her 80s,

retired, who came from Jamaica, and she worked all her life in usa in

garment district.... at hard job, for what people consider low wages...

but she was better off than if she had stayed in Jamaica

samuel_osatuyi : this is the true position of every poor nigerian,

expecially me,if i can find a way out of Nigeria, if i sees such i will do

it, but just for a moment

literarydiscussions: on our educational television (which is private, run

by donations, not government, and expresses points of view contrary

to government sometimes) on educational TV, there was documentary

about one African who had been a farmer, but got a boat, and turned

to fishing, because farming was poor....

samuel_osatuyi : u know, u can"t im agine the hazard ppl go through

literarydiscussions: he was doing better at fishing, but said that he

was so used to having milk, as a farmer, that he did not feel right if he

did not drink some milk each day...

literarydiscussions: Jeff Max thinks that American news distorts and

exaggerates things, and that we think that all africans are naked in a

jungle, and not in big cities with tall buildings...... but that is not true....

we have public television which is independent, and shows factual

documentaries about real peoples lives in africa, india, china, etc

samuel_osatuyi : it is true , this would have been my advice to the

american television, they sholud try to help our situation insted of

ridiculing the africa continent

literarydiscussions: you do not understand what i said

literarydiscussions: they never ridicule africa on tv.... jeff max is

mistaken

samuel_osatuyi : ok

samuel_osatuyi : but when they saw africans lanquishing in pains,

what have they done to help

samuel_osatuyi : i understand u

literarydiscussions: well... i am certain that help has come from usa

and other countries..... to africa.... though i cannot say in detail how

much or what.... but on the otherhand... you cannot expect usa to

totally remove all the poverty or illness or suffering... since that is not

possible

literarydiscussions: centuries ago, no nation would take some action if

there was a genocide or an injustice in another country...

literarydiscussions: but now.... you see action taken regarding

hutu/tutsi genocide.... or the actions against muslims in bosnia

samuel_osatuyi : at list, well the london government ar trying, a

governor in Nigveria took the country"s money to london, and he was

caught,if america can teach and assert presure on hthe rich Nigerians

in usa, it will help to remember the mpor

literarydiscussions: i do not say that americans are saints..... no

nation or people is saintly... each have their selfish sides, self

interest..... but it is not fair to portray americans as demons with evil

agendas, as we are portrayed by Cuba and North Korea

literarydiscussions: whenever North Korea has a frequent power

electrical brown out, they say "oh those damn americans are doing

this to us".... which is absurd

samuel_osatuyi : am not imposing the blames on americans, but it is

part of jthe ways they can help to let the rich have the mind of the

poor in them

literarydiscussions: here is someone talking to me from ethiopia

literarydiscussions: hiruyfekre

literarydiscussions: his screen name

samuel_osatuyi : you if the home is good,ppl woN"t go out in serching

for a better hope

samuel_osatuyi : is he online right now

samuel_osatuyi 's status is now "Available". (12/23/2005 7:08 AM)


literarydiscussions: he is on line now... asking about blogspots

literarydiscussions: so i gave him the link to get a free blog, like i did

samuel_osatuyi : ok

samuel_osatuyi : thank u for writting something abt me on ur site am

so happy

samuel_osatuyi : u called me a young poet

samuel_osatuyi : am aspiring to do more better

literarydiscussions: yes... i think we should have more about Africa....

to raise people's awareness around the world

literarydiscussions: and we can post discussions about problems,

politics... etc

samuel_osatuyi : no, it has to do with the internet

literarydiscussions: look, i know you, and jeff max , in nigeria, and now

hiruyfekre in ethiopia

samuel_osatuyi : ii pray that God will help me, is part of my plans

samuel_osatuyi : ok, i promise 2 tell ppl abt u

literarydiscussions: it is ok, not necessary... all posts enter into the

search engines automatically... and if people are interested... they will

search on a topic, and find my site

literarydiscussions: but thanks for kind thought



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hiruyfekre : hi

literarydiscussions: hello

hiruyfekre : remember me

literarydiscussions: sort of.... i see so many hundreds on line

hiruyfekre : you helped me find some books once

hiruyfekre : and this one time you were told me 'write once read

many times'

literarydiscussions: what country are you in

hiruyfekre : Ethiopia

hiruyfekre : and you?

literarydiscussions: usa

literarydiscussions: i am talking right now to someone in nigeria

hiruyfekre : What is your understanding of Blogger and Blogspot

hiruyfekre : I once lived very close to that country

literarydiscussions: i can show you my new blog,... it is free, you can

have one too

hiruyfekre : how can I get free web space out side of blog

hiruyfekre : yeah show me

literarydiscussions: here is mine

http://literarydiscussions.blogspot.com/

literarydiscussions: here is where to get your own

literarydiscussions: http://www.blogger.com/start

hiruyfekre : yeah, I happen to have one to, but i can't seem to design

it, how do you put pictures in?

literarydiscussions: at the link i gave you , they tell you how... you

need an internet host (a website or something) to UPLOAD your

photos.... then, you place a link to the picture at that site...

literarydiscussions: i dont have much time now.... i could do a post

over the weekend to explain how it is done...

literarydiscussions: the www.blogger.com site gives you links to

places where you can get free space to upload pictures

hiruyfekre : thanksyou are always a help

literarydiscussions: make sure you have the link to my message board

hiruyfekre : I do

literarydiscussions: http://www.literarydiscussions.myfreeforum.org

literarydiscussions: there is a section there on SOFTWARE...

hiruyfekre : hey, are message boards also free

literarydiscussions: so, i could post some info about embedding

photos

literarydiscussions: yes... myfreeforum.org gives you free message

board

hiruyfekre : i'll check it out.

literarydiscussions: and at my free forum... there is info on how to run

one... with tutorials

literarydiscussions: links to their tutorials

hiruyfekre : thats wonderful

literarydiscussions: and they have a support message board at

forum.myfreeforum.org

literarydiscussions: so, you can join there... and ask questions

hiruyfekre : wow

hiruyfekre : i'll do that.

literarydiscussions: the man who runs it is in england... it is a very

small 2 man company...

literarydiscussions: he is very honest and concerned about ethics and

principles

hiruyfekre : that sounds like something

literarydiscussions: he founded some kind of environmental

movement, called downsizer
Sitaram

literarydiscussions: i found one message board devoted to nigera... there must be others.... you can search for them on google.... and post ads to your message board and egroup... and gain members

literarydiscussions: and you could use ICQ the chat program, use their search engine... which will show you who is on line in ICQ for a given african country and city

literarydiscussions: like everyone in lagos, nigeria

literarydiscussions: for example

literarydiscussions: you can visit yahoo chat rooms where there may be many african-americans.... and get some of them to join

literarydiscussions: you can hold yahoo conferences with 5 or 10 people from africa... then save the chat using cut and paste.. then edit it.. then post it to the message board.... and discuss important issues regarding life in africa, politics, economy, health

launch a campaign to get people like Bill Gates of Microsoft,... and others of wealth and power... to fund free internet access in major areas in Africa, major cities
Sitaram

get many together, in yahoo.... build membership.... keep working weekly toward this goal
Sitaram

literarydiscussions: yes... myfreeforum.org gives you free message board

hiruyfekre : i'll check it out.

literarydiscussions: and at my free forum... there is info on how to run one... with tutorials

literarydiscussions: links to their tutorials

hiruyfekre : thats wonderful

literarydiscussions: and they have a support message board at forum.myfreeforum.org

literarydiscussions: so, you can join there... and ask questions

hiruyfekre : wow

hiruyfekre : i'll do that.

literarydiscussions: the man who runs it is in england... it is a very small 2 man company...

literarydiscussions: he is very honest and concerned about ethics and principles

hiruyfekre : that sounds like something

literarydiscussions: he founded some kind of environmental movement, called downsizer

literarydiscussions: literarydiscussions: yes... i think we should have more about Africa.... to raise people's awareness around the world

literarydiscussions: and we can post discussions about problems, politics... etc

samuel_osatuyi : no, it has to do with the internet

literarydiscussions: look, i know you, and jeff max , in nigeria, and now hiruyfekre in ethiopia

samuel_osatuyi : ii pray that God will help me, is part of my plans

samuel_osatuyi : ok, i promise 2 tell ppl abt u

literarydiscussions: it is ok, not necessary... all posts enter into the search engines automatically... and if people are interested... they will search on a topic, and find my site

literarydiscussions: but thanks for kind thought

samuel_osatuyi : it my pleasure

samuel_osatuyi : thank u for gining me hope

literarydiscussions: create your own free message board about Africa... and samuel can join, and jeff max

literarydiscussions: also, create a yahoo egroup which people can join, which will send out emails on a weekly or even a daily basis

hiruyfekre : hey, I was detained for a moment as I was having a late lunch

hiruyfekre : I ought to do just that

literarydiscussions: i found one message board devoted to nigera... there must be others.... you can search for them on google.... and post ads to your message board and egroup... and gain members

literarydiscussions: and you could use ICQ the chat program, use their search engine... which will show you who is on line in ICQ for a given african country and city

literarydiscussions: like everyone in lagos, nigeria

literarydiscussions: for example

literarydiscussions: you can visit yahoo chat rooms where there may be many african-americans.... and get some of them to join

literarydiscussions: you can hold yahoo conferences with 5 or 10 people from africa... then save the chat using cut and paste.. then edit it.. then post it to the message board.... and discuss important issues regarding life in africa, politics, economy, health

hiruyfekre : thats something

literarydiscussions: poor samuel... i tell him these same things, reposting... and all he says is....

literarydiscussions: samuel_osatuyi : let us put this to another time

samuel_osatuyi : i can"t really understand all this for now



hiruyfekre : Whats exactly is it

literarydiscussions: he is saying that he cannot understand the concept of people baning together and raising one voice.... to create social change

hiruyfekre : it is a very complex phenomen

literarydiscussions: it is not hard to understand how to shout

literarydiscussions: if you can walk, you can dance. if you can talk, you can sing. and if you can shout, you can start a revolution of change

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