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Sitaram · Site Admin Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 1079

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Neal: hey , whats up. I was reading your website, and thought it
was interesting how you and I are the same religion, but I never saw
the same things in my dreams

Sitaram: hello

Neal: hows life?

Sitaram: I almost didnt accept your message, since I get so much PM
spam.... glad I took a chance

Neal: haha

Sitaram: please visit my egroup email listserve, where I post
something every day,... with over 1300 posts to browse, (if you like)

Neal: okay

Sitaram: http://www.egroups.com/group/Sitaram

Sitaram: there, you may see what I have been thinking and reading

Neal: thanks, I have to go to the temple right now

Sitaram: welcome

Neal: bye

Sitaram: thanks for your time and interest

Neal: no, thanks you for your knowledge

Sitaram: I am merely a tool, doing my duty. The knowledge comes from
elsewhere, outside me,...it is not mine

Neal: May I ask you a question ? Why did you choose hinduism? when
there was three other symbols in your hand in your dream

Sitaram: also... visit http://www.sulekha.com the philosophy
section of their message board

Sitaram: I post there also, as well as others

Neal: thanks

Sitaram: I have a page entitled 'Why did you become Hindu" as well
as another page "Hinduism in a Nutshell"

Sitaram:

http://www.geocities.com/tulsidas_ramayan/page059.htm

Sitaram:

http://www.geocities.com/tulsidas_ramayan/page159.htm

Sitaram: page 59 and page 159

Sitaram: those two answer many questions about "why hinduism"

Neal: thanks because im not sure

Sitaram: you may find much "food for thought" at my website and
egroup

Sitaram: as well as the dialogues of many other people

Neal: do the other people have dreams too?

Sitaram: yes, some though, such dreams are rare, for some reason

Neal: yes, you have so much christian influence around you, how
come you didn't get pressured?

Sitaram: I am glad I accepted your IM, ... your named sounded
genuin, whereas other names are things like "Cam girl"

Sitaram: yes... pressure. I certainly received pressure from my
society...

Sitaram: I write much about such fundamentalist attacks, from
christians and also muslims, who attempt to convert

Sitaram: what is your age (I am 54)

Neal: im young

Neal: very young

Neal: 16

Sitaram: ok... and what is your gender (male,female)... just curious

Neal: male

Sitaram: ok

Sitaram: there are many pages at my website useful for young people

Neal: I just seem pressured with the many relgions surrounding me,
people asking me questions

Neal: like do you drink cow blood?

Neal: and why do you pray to elephants

Sitaram: I have some dialogues from young people who have been the
victim of such criticisms

Sitaram: Jesus is called "lamb of god" so christians in a sense pray
to a lamb

Sitaram: Ganapati (Ganesh) means "Lord of Hosts", and God is
called "Lord of hosts" in the bible

Neal: yeah, I have been mostly been made fun of by the christians

Neal: muslims seem to accept me more

Sitaram: muslims are more crafty and subtle....

Sitaram: but they are out to get you in the end

Sitaram: indian muslims are more tolerant than arab muslims

Neal: yeah
Neal: most of them are indian muslims

Sitaram: here is a good page for young people

Sitaram: Teenage Girl Questions Sexual Morality - Page 293

Sitaram: dialogue with young girl in India

Sitaram: aged 15 at the time

Neal: so are you planning to move to india?

Neal: or something like that or travel

Neal: do you know many caucasians who are converting to hindusim?

Sitaram: I would say that caucasians who become some form of hindu
or buddhist in usa number possibly 100,000 (just guessing), but that
is not a large number compared to usa population,... or world
population of 6.5 billion

Neal: do you think it will get any larger?

Sitaram: of course, hare krishna is one form of hinduism amoung
many, and most of those are white american (i am not hare krishna
though I respect and understand them

Neal: because of increasing knowlege and science and diversity in
the future?

Sitaram: the world took until 1830 to reach 1 billion population,
but by 1930 it had doubled to 2 billion... and from 1930 to now, it
has TRIPLED to 6 billion, and by 2030, estimates are 20 billion

Neal: but I dont think the world will get that large

Sitaram: so it is growing every faster, in exponentional rates

Sitaram: time will tell

Neal: because increased knowlegde

Neal: and more people will have only one to two babies

Sitaram: I have an interesting page for you "Earthly paradise is
within our grasp"

Neal: replacing both mother and father

Neal: keeping the growth rate the same

Neal: or decreasing

Sitaram: you may find all page titles at

http://www.geocities.com/tulsidas_ramayan/webindex.htm

Neal: thanks

Sitaram:

http://www.geocities.com/tulsidas_ramayan/page220.htm

Sitaram: Earthly Parasise is within our Grasp

Neal: what is that suppose to mean?

Sitaram: Did it every occur to anyone that PARADISE, earthly
paradise, IS ALREADY within the grasp of mankind?? whatever do I mean
by this strange statement??

Sitaram: very simply this: If all 6 billion humans united and worked
in harmony, this very moment,..... and through self-control,
abstinance... whatever means (birth control,
masturbation...whatever) ... if their goal was to reduce the world
population to ONE BILLION over the next 200 years... SIMPLY by
limiting reproduction....

Sitaram: then in a short 200 years... the earths population would be
at a reasonable stable level from an environmental point of view.....

Sitaram: Now what do I mean by "earthly paradise is in our
grasp".... I MEAN THAT, AFTER THE EARTH HAD RETURNED TO THE ONE
BILLION population level,.....over the next 200 years.... technology,
science, medicine, and a united world democracy, would make EVERYONE
independently wealthy, and disease free....

Sitaram: It is very obvious to us , even now... that computers and
robots and modern technology makes possible a level of production
(food and other materials) which does not require such a work force
as in previous centuries... and CERTAINLY DOES NOT require the slave
labor which was employed so many times in history....

Sitaram: So, humanity has it totally within their power, in theory,
to choose, to elect, to transform human life into a paradise of
wealth for all, free of disease...

Sitaram: But our own selfishness and greed, and our racial and
ethinic prejudices and nationalistic pride, will perhaps never allow
us to co-operate with one another, and to practice the personal
asceticism and self denial, to achieve such an end....

Sitaram: But even if humanity COULD manage to unite and discipline
to create such a UTOPIAN WORLD.... what would those people do with
all their free time, their leisure, their perfect health and
incredible life spans extended by genetic engineering and artificial
organ transplants??

Sitaram: Would they write poetry and create works of art....???

Sitaram: recite prayers and debate theology????

Sitaram: or would they have too much sex, drink and smoke too much,
and become bored and depressed??

Sitaram: end of excerpt

Neal: I think that with there time

Neal: they would see more into religions

Neal: and meditation and knowlege will be key

Sitaram: perhaps, ... perhaps not... look at television... one a few
educational stations, like history channel.... but many stations with
nonsense, gossip, comedy, cartoons

Sitaram: we have it in our power right now to make television an
educational paradise... but we do not do

that... we make it into a time waster

Neal: haha true

Sitaram: we could always carry a book with us, and read when we are
on train, etc... but instead, we carry video game

Neal: are you happy?

Neal: because when you reach high meditation and spirtual knowlege

Neal: you are suppose to have some sort of upliftment

Neal: like inner peace

Sitaram: I will not lie to you, I am not always happy, but my
studies make it much easier for me to bear my sorrow and pain

Sitaram: sometimes, peace means making peace with our unhappiness,
though it is not necessarily honest to call that "Happiness"

Sitaram: Job, in the Old Testament Bible, is certainly not "happy",
but he certainly has made peace with his unhappiness

Sitaram: you may learn much indeed from reading what I have written,
and from chatting and corresponding with me from time to time

Neal: because I hear of people in india giving up everything

Sitaram: it will definitely change your life in some fashion

Neal: and reading and learning and spirtual knowlege lead them to
true happiness some time

Sitaram: here is a good page for you "Sadhus

Neal: thanks a lot

Sitaram:

http://www.geocities.com/tulsidas_ramayan/page238.htm

Sitaram: welcome... bye

Neal: I will read that , bye

Sitaram: see you later

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