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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: Ingmar Bergman |
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katare_ninad : hi
literarydiscussions: hello
katare_ninad : so still searching
literarydiscussions: you are still searching?
katare_ninad : no i am just chatting
literarydiscussions: sorry... i have so many on line people i meet in yahoo chat rooms,... i get confused sometimes
katare_ninad : oh no i am sorry
literarydiscussions: and some of them are searching for material for an essay, or school assignment
katare_ninad : ok
literarydiscussions: what country are you in... refresh my memory... i am in USA
katare_ninad : well i am just a student
katare_ninad : i am from india
katare_ninad : well nice to meet you
literarydiscussions: ok... nice to meet you
katare_ninad : so my friend told me that you have very much knowledge of almost everything
literarydiscussions: not really, I simply know certain subjects/areas, and things which are unusual, not generally known
katare_ninad : yes but that is a very nice thing
literarydiscussions: my message board http://www.literarydiscussions.myfreeforum.org has a selection of my writings and posts
katare_ninad : ok
literarydiscussions: it must be between 6pm and 7pm for you... in India
katare_ninad : so on which subjects you have researched
katare_ninad : its 5:30
literarydiscussions: so, you are on the west side of India, near Mumbai, and not near the east, Calcutta
katare_ninad : yes
katare_ninad : well thats very clever of you
literarydiscussions: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldc...235,236,268,14,26,438,246,122,179
literarydiscussions: that is the world clock i use
literarydiscussions: you can use it, and configure it to show additional cities
katare_ninad : and how did it exactly works
literarydiscussions: it is free,.... from a website.... you have to be connected to internet for it to work
katare_ninad : ok
literarydiscussions: if you visit www.timeanddate.com you will see
katare_ninad : so did you study on films
katare_ninad : foreign films i mean
literarydiscussions: i watched phulan devi on educational televison
katare_ninad : do you mean bandit queen
literarydiscussions: and zentropa, a german film about the occupation after WWII
literarydiscussions: yes... the bandit queen
katare_ninad : who was the director of zentropa
literarydiscussions: and the german film with Peter Faulk..... "Himmel Uber Berlin" (Heaven over Berlin), in english called "Wings of Desire"
literarydiscussions: oh.. you would have to google.com for all that, but it is easy to find
katare_ninad : yes i know that i just asked
katare_ninad : did you see any iranian films
literarydiscussions: hmmm.... no iranian films...
literarydiscussions: i am thinking now, to remember...
katare_ninad : well you should watch them they are beautifull
literarydiscussions: Monsieur Ibrahim, about the old Sufi grocier adopting the young jewish boy
literarydiscussions: with Omar Sharif
katare_ninad : no
literarydiscussions: in France... the title adds, "and the rose of the Quran"
literarydiscussions: which is an important aspect of the story
katare_ninad : what is the story
literarydiscussions: well, if i tell you, then it will be spoiled for you, if you see it later
literarydiscussions: since there will be no surprise
katare_ninad : well i have very little chance of seeing it
literarydiscussions: let me look for the link to what I wrote about it....
katare_ninad : ok take your own time
literarydiscussions: http://literarydiscussions.myfree.../ftopic192.php&highlight=omar
literarydiscussions: i mention the movie here
literarydiscussions: I recently watched that movie Monsieur Ibrahim with Omar Sharif on
DVD, about the old Muslim shopkeeper who adopts an orphaned Jewish
boy in Paris. The jacked of the DVD explained that Omar Sharif's
movies are banned in Egypt because he played opposite the Jewish
actress, Barbra Streisand, and kissed her. I was shocked to learn
this trivia fact.
literarydiscussions: excerpt from post
katare_ninad : that is really a good post
literarydiscussions: thanks... you can see 1500 of my posts at http://www.egroups.com/group/Sitaram
katare_ninad : ok
literarydiscussions: my attempt at a first book is http://www.toosmallforsupernova.org
katare_ninad : is your name sitaram
literarydiscussions: yes
katare_ninad : well do you know what it means
literarydiscussions: yes
literarydiscussions: my original website is http://www.members.aol.com/Sitaram
literarydiscussions: that is highlights of the original site
literarydiscussions: Hinduism and Interfaith Dialogues was its title
katare_ninad : so you are trying to write on supernova
literarydiscussions: it is a type of fiction...
literarydiscussions: you can download many of my writings as zipped files at http://www.toosmallforsupernova.org/download.htm
katare_ninad : based on supernova
literarydiscussions: http://www.toosmallforsupernova.org/downloads.htm
literarydiscussions: the second link is correct, (first link has typo error)
literarydiscussions: ok, HERE is the link i was looking for
literarydiscussions: http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?p=100492
literarydiscussions: There is something which Omar Sharif says several times in that movie which is quite germane to the question which this thread poses. Several times during the movie, the young boy asks Omar various important questions about life, and Omar simply answers, "I know what is in my Qu'ran".
We do not learn until the very end of the movie what is really meant by that statement. If I tell you what is meant, it will be a SPOILER, so I have placed the spoiler by itself on one page of my site, and here is the link:
literarydiscussions: http://toosmallforsupernova.org/sharif.htm
literarydiscussions: that link is the spoiler
katare_ninad : well you are really a great person
literarydiscussions: i have my short comings and failures...
literarydiscussions: f. scott fitzgerald died thinking he was a failure
literarydiscussions: and regretting that he wasted so much time on drinking and party life
literarydiscussions: he did a major rewrite of "The Great Gatsby" in the GALLEY STAGE, at the printers, when you should only be doing minor typographical corrections
literarydiscussions: fitzgerald was not "re-discovered" until 15 yrs after his death
katare_ninad : what are you saying
literarydiscussions: i am saying that people we consider great have their flaws and shortcomings...
literarydiscussions: from an historical distance.... we might see lincoln, or gandhi, or muhammed, or fitzgerald as larger-than-life heros.... but if we knew the person.... we would see their short comings and failures as well as their genius and success
katare_ninad : well but they are great in some manner
katare_ninad : arent they
literarydiscussions: there is some minor form of greatness in some of the things I have written.... and my writings will most likely disappear after my death,... because no one on internet wants to make the small effort to download them and preserve them for the future in some manner
literarydiscussions: to keep them alive on a message board or web site
literarydiscussions: everyone says, "oh, someone else will do that..."
literarydiscussions: which means that ultimately, no one does it
katare_ninad : hey man
katare_ninad : dont get dissapointed so easily
literarydiscussions: i have watched this happening for the past 8 years
literarydiscussions: various young people become enthused about being caretakers, and preserving the writings... and then, after a while,... they lose interest, lose contact, disappear
katare_ninad : well i know you are the little encyclopedia
literarydiscussions: you see, there are many encyclopedias, and search engines... but some of the ideas I expressed were unique, and to be found nowhere else
literarydiscussions: so... that is the tragedy... the lost of those few unique ideas
katare_ninad : see there are so few peoples who use ency
katare_ninad : isnt it correct
literarydiscussions: well, you have all my links... so you are now free to read everything I have written over the past 8 years, if you find it interesting
literarydiscussions: and you can download the html to the original website, with 420 browser pages...
literarydiscussions: if you like
literarydiscussions: and you can download the 1500 posts/essays, zipped, from the egroup
literarydiscussions: this entire post has some good things.... the post on women, emancipation, and quran
literarydiscussions: http://www.online-literature.com/...d.php?t=4519&page=3&pp=15
literarydiscussions: I feel compassion for young people (under 40) who are by their very nature idealistic and who, therefore, feel compelled to defend fiercely what they have come to consider as absolutes. It is difficult and painful for anyone, whoever and whatever you may be, to place your heritage, your ancestors, your history, your cherished beliefs, under the multicultural microscope of our postmodern world and ask difficult questions
literarydiscussions: (excerpt)
katare_ninad has signed back in. (1/14/2006 8:00 AM)
literarydiscussions: I feel compassion for young people (under 40) who are by their very nature idealistic and who, therefore, feel compelled to defend fiercely what they have come to consider as absolutes. It is difficult and painful for anyone, whoever and whatever you may be, to place your heritage, your ancestors, your history, your cherished beliefs, under the multicultural microscope of our postmodern world and ask difficult questions
literarydiscussions: excerpt from link
literarydiscussions: http://www.online-literature.com/...d.php?t=4519&page=3&pp=15
literarydiscussions: i must log off soon... but feel free to message me when you see me on line
katare_ninad : off course
katare_ninad : sitaram can you do me a fever
literarydiscussions: what is that
katare_ninad : well dont get dissappointed
literarydiscussions: well... the end of everyone is their unavoidable death... so we must accept this.... and if the world is indifferent to my writings , then i must accept it
katare_ninad : and make a complete list of your search
literarydiscussions: what is this search you keep mentioning
katare_ninad : no your whole search
literarydiscussions: i cannot understand what you mean by search...
katare_ninad : i mean your posts essays and everything
katare_ninad : make a website of yours
literarydiscussions: you see.... i have said most of what i had to say, in my writings... and they are there for download.... if people take some interest... and a few have
katare_ninad : so that lot of peoples can see your work
literarydiscussions: and i have made many websites... and message boards
literarydiscussions: i cannot do much more than i have done...
literarydiscussions: "the ball is now in YOUR court" as they say in the game of tennis
katare_ninad : well you cant have the whole knowledge
katare_ninad : thats true
literarydiscussions: YOU meaning, the young people on the internet
katare_ninad : hey do you know ingmar bergman
literarydiscussions: i am familiar with the name
literarydiscussions: i watched a movie in the 1980s
katare_ninad : well i want screenplay of his films
literarydiscussions: search on google... that is all i can think to suggest
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