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Sitaram · Site Admin Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 1079

maddy_doggy: amazing resource

literarydiscussions: why, thanks

maddy_doggy: self indulgent as it may seem, but amazing

literarydiscussions: why self indulgent... i am old, i will die soon... i had some unique ideas....why should i not labor to put them some place for the possible benefit or enjoyment of future generations

literarydiscussions: where all the writers of the world then, throughout history, self indulgent? and what would we study, if no one labored

maddy_doggy: i see you are not into ironic humour, my fault, i apologise

literarydiscussions: i will tell you what IS self indulgent... and that is all these thousand of people you see on the internet who waste their time, waste their very expensive educations, and waste their human birth,... to do nothing, say nothing, be nothing... now THAT to me is self indulgent

literarydiscussions: but, what I do is selfless, because I think about those who will follow, after i am gone

maddy_doggy: yes i couldnt concur with you more, but you see...you cant take the well to the thirsty, thats why im the only person who paid acknowledgement to your 'labour'

literarydiscussions: this is quite true... so few have any interest at all

maddy_doggy: as for the rest, they will continue thriving in their self indulgent stupor...a product of celestial design? or merely random sources of energy...

literarydiscussions: i am laughing, because, last week, i was talking with my friend from school at age 11.... and I told her of message board (she knows i write)... and she said "isnt that a bit obsessive".... which angered me, but SHE lives for years now, with her lesbian companion and a parrot (not that i condemn her lifestyle)... but i said, "You would not care to be judged by others for your lifestyle... but i am quite sure her family does judge her

literarydiscussions: why shouldnt we work to create something, leave something, like Proust for example...

maddy_doggy: im glad you still have friends from school, age 11...wow

literarydiscussions: besides, if you do not labor now, and be proactive, then when will you do it... when will you write, ... or provide for the survival and perpetuation of that writing

maddy_doggy: in any case, i appreciate what you are doing, im obsessive about seeking out such resources..really dont see any meaning in anything else

literarydiscussions: but, we should not denegrate ourselves or our nature with words like obsessive, or self-indulgent...

maddy_doggy: lol

literarydiscussions: hard work over long hours is never self-indulgent

maddy_doggy: i dont think words have any true objective meaning, the only meaning they have is what you make of it

literarydiscussions: those words are the vocabulary of the rhetoric used by the lazy and unambitious, to justify their existence... and make themselves feel better, less intimidated

maddy_doggy: i could use a word like obsessive, and not actually be obsessive in action, but then how do u define obsessive? you see the absurdity of language? and why we are so lonely because there is no true meaning nor any connection that i can reach with language or words..
literarydiscussions: but, did you really read much at the message board?
literarydiscussions: i mean, did you read something in particular which interested you or impressed you? just curious

maddy_doggy: i read that "That culture is best which never has to ask which is the best culture"

maddy_doggy: and i knew i found some place nice

literarydiscussions: aha, ok... you see, one of my members (the few that i have), is age 13, a girl, in pakistan... and she was asking me, in a chat in MSN, which culture is best

maddy_doggy: a very precocious child i must say
maddy_doggy: that is a question which always haunts me

literarydiscussions: so, you see, chat and internet can be harnessed to draw out from ourselves those precious drops, distillations, of inspiration, which reside within each of us

maddy_doggy : like i have this romantic delusions that i would go to a diff country a diff culture and start life afresh and then i see the absurdity in it, and then i legitimise my existence living in india, by saying, india has everything i could ever wish for

literarydiscussions: oh, you must try to read that poem by C.P. Cavafy...

maddy_doggy : i googled it
maddy_doggy : any poem in particular?

literarydiscussions: http://literarydiscussions.myfreeforum.org/ftopic205.php

literarydiscussions: go to the bottom of this post

maddy_doggy : ok

literarydiscussions: The City

You said, "I will go to another land, I will go to another sea.
Another city will be found, a better one than this.
Every effort of mine is a condemnation of fate;
and my heart is -- like a corpse -- buried.
How long will my mind remain in this wasteland.
Wherever I turn my eyes, wherever I may look
I see black ruins of my life here,
where I spent so many years destroying and wasting."

You will find no new lands, you will find no other seas.
The city will follow you. You will roam the same
streets. And you will age in the same neighborhoods;
and you will grow gray in these same houses.
Always you will arrive in this city. Do not hope for any other --
There is no ship for you, there is no road.
As you have destroyed your life here
in this little corner, you have ruinded it in the entire world.

- by C. P. Cavafy (not by Sitaram)

bloaaple · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject: Poetry

i read u poem
the poem is composed very beautifully and u use diction which is diction of common man like Words Worth . AS poetry is spontaneous overflow of power ful thought recollected in tranquallity . But sir u are more pessimistic in u poem City like T.S.Eloit WASTLAND. ,,,,,,,,ARE u inspired from T.S.Eliot or Wordsworth but u flow of thought is like Word Worth but u subject is more synonyms to waste land. thanks

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i am interested to find educated minds rather than hearts..........any how wish u best of luck
in my begining is my end, u jump i jump,,,,,,,,,,,,,, behonest with out the thought of heaven or hell

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